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While We’re Young (Ideas) | Paying Tribute to Coach

By TERRY LYONS, Editor-in-Chief of Digital Sports Desk

JAMAICA ESTATES – If you attended St. John’s University in New York anytime between 1958 and 1992, chances are you knew Coach Lou Carnesecca. With the exception of a three year stint (1970-1973) with the New York Nets of the American Basketball Association (ABA), Carnesecca roamed the Hillcrest Queens campus of St. John’s much to the delight of the athletics department, the basketball players, the student bosy, faculty and administration.

Simply put: Everyone Loved Louie.

He was so great, you’d have thought he’d last forever.

This columnist first set eyes on Carnesecca at a Niagara College at St. John’s game held on Thursday, February 13, 1969 – a school night I might note. St. John’s thumped Niagara 97-60 and sent All-American guard Calvin Murphy back to the Falls after placing quite a hurtin’ on the longtime rivals with games that date back to 1909. I can vividly remember Murphy conducting a “Globetrotters-like” warm-up stationed on the free throw line, tossing fancy passes to his teammates as they made lay-ups in entertaining fashio, all decked out in 1960-70s stylish warm-ups. It was quoite a sight and quite a show.

Then the game started and the show shifted to the sidelines, as Carnesecca marched up and down, legs kicking, arms tossing, hands gesturing on every field goal, free throw and every single call made by a referee.

Of course, Carnesecca lived by the adage of “Peacock Today, Feather-duster Tomorrow,” so the side show was not about the legend of Little Louie. It was Carnesecca’s very own way of coaching his players, living the game with his players, protecting his players, rooting his players on to victory. After all, what could a little body English hurt when the Italian language was accompanying every shot or challenging every single call.

At Louie’s side was assistant coach John Kresse, an able sidekick who tried-out for the St. John’s varsity but was cut. Carnesecca spotted the basketball genius of the then 21-year old and basketball history was made, both at St. John’s (1965-1970 and 1973-1979) and at the College of Charleston where Kresse became the fifth highest winning coach by percentage (.797) of any Division 1 NCAA college basketball coach, registering 560 wins and 143 losses during his 23 years as head coach.

Before Kresse left Louie’s side, Carnesecca was well on his way to a (526-200) regular season record of his own, establishing a yearly 20-win season back when college programs played 27 or 29 games maximum in a single basketball season. In doing so, St. John’s basketball became “New York’s Team,” outshining big time college programs and rivals at NYU, Fordham, Columbia, City College or Manhattan.

The key was a combination of Carnesecca’s roots at St. Ann’s Academy where he won two Catholic High School titles and his following the legendary Joe Lapchick who decided to leave St. John’s in 1947 to coach the New York Knickerbockers of the (Basketball Association of America (BAA), the predecessor or the National Basketball Association (NBA).

Through his work at St. Ann’s (now Archbishop Molloy) and his network of Catholic High school coaches, Carnesecca claimed all he needed were some subway tokens to recruit the best basketball players in the world. Carnesecca, Kresse and third assistant Ron Rutledge combed the city schools, even coaxing many of the public school’s best to stay home in NYC rather than play in front of strangers in Carolina (North and South), Florida or California.

After all, at that time, only St. John’s could offer a regular schedule of games at the MECCA of basketball, Madison Square Garden – the World’s Most Famous Arena – which Louie tagged as, “MACY*s window.”

One of the players, Frank Alagia, from St. Agnes Cathedral High School on Long Island, took Carnesecca up on his offer to play in front of friends and family. Alagia reflected back on his coach and mentor from some 50 years ago saying, “The thing that he really taught us, most of all, was he led by his example and he was a very humble man. He was a very giving man and he gave everybody the same time, whether you were from a big network, a small network, a big newspaper, a small newspaper. He was very good with everybody, and that was a great lesson to me.

“He’s such a part of the fabric of New York,” added Alagia. “Don’t forget, he followed a legend in Joe Lapchick and became bigger than that legend. When you think about it in sports, how many times can you remember when a legend follows a legend like that? So, I mean, that kind of speaks for itself.”

The undaunted following of a legend, the sideline exhuberance, and the subway token approach put Carnesecca in gyms all over Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan, the Bronx, and Long Island with an occasional trip to Staten Island, Jersey or Connecticut. It also allowed Carnesecca to be reacquainted with players he met and coached at his legendary summer camps, as he maintained a stable of local high school coaches who were employed each and every summer to help run the camps.

Let St. John’s and Golden State Warriors Hall of Famer Chris Mullin explain: “Obviously, Coach spent his whole life here, right? That alone, just the longevity alone, but it was more his infectious personality,” noted Mullin. “His warmth, his care, his love, his protection, I always felt like he protected us.

“He gave us praise for wins and he took the losses. He burdened the losses for us, and he gave us the wins, let us celebrate the wins. With that, he just treated everyone with respect.

“I’ve known him for over 50 years. I met him when I was 11 years old. Just looking back, he was always gracious, very humble. He won with class and lost with grace.”

Mullin, the ‘92 Dream Team shooter extraordinaire and possibly New York City’s best collegiate player of all-time (if you think of Power Memorial’s Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as a Los Angeles collegian) met Carnesecca in 1974 as an 11 year old. By 1981, Mullin was shooting jumpers and owned a set of keys to Alumni Hall (now Carnesecca Arena). By 1985, Mullin and Carnesecca were headed for the Final Four in Lexington, Kentucky. By 2011, the duo stood center stage at the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield, Massachusetts as Mullin asked Carnesecca (Hall of Famer as of 1992) to be his honorary presenter to the all-time greatest players assembled.

After Coach Carnesecca’s funeral service celebration this week at St. Thomas More on campus, former Seton Hall and NBA coach P. J. Carlesemo summed it up quite nicely, quoting words mentioned during the Mass of Christian Burial, “When you think back to the BIG EAST, I think Father Shanley said it, but I mean, the BIG EAST would never have been the BIG EAST without Lou, and I can’t think of St. John’s without him.”

HERE NOW, THE NOTES: For this special column, how about a few other notes and quotes about Lou Carnesecca, all from those in attendance at the funeral Mass on Friday?

St. John’s center-forward Walter Berry, College Player of the Year in 1986: “We were here playing, and some of the things he instilled in me as a man, forget about basketball.

“It’s about Lou today. He did a lot for a lot of people and he was one of the greatest people I’ve known. You know, I don’t want to break down, but, this is a hard day for everybody. Coach was my guy, man. He helped me in ways that nobody else could.”

Alagia: “There’s just so many memories I have with him. Just playing for him, but later on, going to visit him and talking about old times because I can go back with Coach to the 60s and even 50s and talk about guys, and Coach loved that. He loved his days when he coached at St. Ann’s, like his gradual rise and how he came to St. John’s. There’s just so many memories that I have. It would be hard to pick one.”

St. John’s guard Mark Jackson on the first time he met Carnesecca: “I remember Coach sitting there, and his presence in the gym, almost like a spotlight was just on him. Any room or gym he walked into, you can tell there was something special about him, and from that moment on, I wanted to be a member of St. John’s basketball team.”

St. John’s phenom Felipe Lopez on getting calls from Coach Carnesecca long after he turned pro and long after his retirement from the NBA: “He would still call me sometimes. I was like, ‘Lou Carnesecca is calling me? That’s amazing’. That was the type of human being he was. Someone who really cared about his players, his family, his community, his college, and obviously he built such a great legacy in basketball.”

St. John’s guard turned highly competent broadcaster, Tarik Turner, on Carnesecca’s legend at the school even when Brian Mahoney took over as head coach: “I knew about just the legend, watching him coach on the sidelines and coach great players like Mark (Jackson) and Chris (Mullin) and Walter (Berry), but I knew I was going to get a chance to play for Brian Mahoney, his long term assistant, so I knew I had a connection to him, but I didn’t know what kind of man he was until I met him and sat down with him.”

St. John’s center Bill Wennington, a three-time NBA champion who grew up in Montreal, Canada but knew of the St. John’s coaching legend: “When you come to New York, playing at The Garden – The Mecca – Coach Carnesecca’s name is a part of the legacy. He got kids in off the street from the city to come and play here, and molded them into men and taught us life lessons, made us better basketball players, but made us better people and better men in our lives.”

TIDBITS: St. John’s tribute to Coach Carnesecca will continue into 2025. On January 4, one day prior to what would’ve been his 100th birthday, St. John’s will host Lou Carnesecca Day for the Johnnies’ matchup vs. Butler. Fans in attendance will receive a replica of the Lou Carnesecca statue, a fixture in the arena’s lobby. In addition, throughout the game, St. John’s will celebrate Coach Carnesecca with several video board features and messages. … This week’s edition of “The St. John’s Red Storm Podcast” will feature a never-heard-before sit down interview with Coach Carnesecca and fellow Hall of Famer and St. John’s legend Jack Kaiser. To listen to “The St. John’s Red Storm Podcast,” To listen, visit HERE.

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YOU CAN’T MAKE IT UP: The BIG TEN fined both Michigan and The Ohio State University a cool $100,000 for their parts in the wild post game melee that took place in Columbus, Ohio last week. … The on-field fight took place when Ohio State defensive linebacker Jack Sawyer took exception to Michigan’s edge rusher Derrick Moore deciding to plant a blue Michigan flag on the midfield Buckeye logo.

The melee broke out from there, with reports of Michigan Wolverine players being maced by attending police officers.

Dueling statements accompanied the fines.

The BIG TEN tried to close ranks and put the issue to bed saying, it “considers this matter concluded and will have no further comment.” But, the conference said the teams violated the league’s sportsmanship policy, noting: “Not only did the actions of both teams violate fundamental elements of sportsmanship such as respect and civility, the nature of the incident also jeopardized the safety of participants and bystanders.”

Ohio State countered: “What happened post-game (Saturday) was unfortunate,” the statement read. “Good sportsmanship is always important in everything we do at Ohio State. Moving forward, we will continue to examine and address our post-game protocols to ensure our student-athletes, coaches, visiting teams and staff safely exit the field.”

The fisticuffs came immediately after time ran out and players met-up at midfield after Michigan’s 13-10 win at Columbus.

To the BIG TEN’s proclamation, considering the matter over, WWYI notes the all-American line from the motion picture, Animal House, “What? Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is.”

In other words, “was it over when the Astros were banging on Gatorade coolers? Was it over when Tom Brady said the footballs were properly inflated? Was it over when Gil Hodges looked at the the baseball with J.C. Martin’s shoe polish?

Surely, if that melee happened after an NBA game on Thanksgiving Weekend, they’d still be showing the fight’s lowlights and seeking a Federal investigation on the pepper spraying of athletes.